The Evoque is a great looking car and is very practical but why are there so many gearbox and transmission problems? This little blog is just to let people know my own personal experience and disappointment with my Evoque and the treatment I received from Jaguar Land Rover. In May I noticed a whine from the transmission and arranged to have the vehicle looked at by the dealer, Stratstone in Stokcton.
The dealer was great — they picked up the car and the diagnosis was that the power take off unit had failed and needs replacing. The car was first registered in November so was approximately 3 and a half years old and therefore out of manufacturer warranty. It had 32, miles on the clock at this point. Why am I unhappy — the car is out of warranty? The car comes with a standard 3 year manufacturers warranty and I understand that it is out of warranty but I am surprised that Jaguar Land Rover are not interested in helping towards this repair in any way.
The answer has been a flat NO — no goodwill gesture of any sort. This is a huge surprise to me — should it be reasonable for a premium product to have a major component fail at such a low mileage and age? I do not think so but it appears to me that Jaguar Land Rover do. So, in short, beware of buying an Evoque if you want to keep it when it is more than 3 years old. It might cost you a lot to money to repair!
My car is 3 and a half years old, has 32, miles on the clock and has had a major transmission failure. It is quite obvious that the manufacturer has had lots of problems with gearboxes and transmissions and I think they just want to wash their hands of any that they do not have a legal obligation to deal with — a moral obligation is a different matter.
As a note the Land Rover customer services are very slow to respond to any query, here is my timeline —. Skip to content The Evoque is a great looking car and is very practical but why are there so many gearbox and transmission problems? As a note the Land Rover customer services are very slow to respond to any query, here is my timeline — 20th May — email complaint — No response 28th May — email — No response 2nd June — email — No responce 4th June — Finally someone contacted me 20 days after I first contacted them!
Freelander IRD's are a common failure on these 4x4's. The root cause of this failure 9 times out of 10 is a faulty viscous coupling unit VCUwhich should be changed at the same time as the IRD. If your Freelander feels "tight" or it appears the brakes are binding, especially when reversing on full lock, this means your existing VCU is past its servicable life and you should change it as soon as possible.
A damaged VCU put massive strain on the rest of your transmission line, causing the IRD unit, rear diff and gearbox to wear at a hugely accelerated rate, and will cause a very costly failure of these parts.
A VCU's servicable life span is usually no more than 70k miles, but it can be a lot less we have seen cars with failures at 30k miles depending on how the car has been driven.
It is a common fallacy that VCUs seize. More and more strain is therefore put on the gear train and failure eventually occurs to the IRD and rear diff.
There will be no obvious sign or noise and IRD failure usually occurs when reversing the vehicle upon which the thrust bearing collapses and total failure occurs normally breaking the teeth off the crown wheel and pinion which causes the banging and grinding noise. Another cause of IRD failure is due to bad wear in the inner constant velocity joint on the offside drive shaft. This usually results in the outer taper roller bearing next to the CV joint collapsing and causing the top gear shaft to break teeth, which in turn usually cracks or smashes the IRD main casing and end casing with subsequent loss of all oil.
This constant heating also cooks the VCU so that it does not operate correctly, even when correct tyres are fitted. A difference of just 5mm in diameter dramatically increases the rotational differences between the front and rear axles, so it is imperative that the tyres are always matched.
The variations between makes of tyres with the same profile can be even more than this, so tyre makes should also be matched. Freelander rear diff failures are not as common as IRD failures, but are still a weak point. I f there is a drumming or humming sound coming from the rear of your Freelander 2 or Evoque, the chances are the rear diff bearings are failing.
This is very common on the models and can occur even in very low mileage vehicles. These upsized bearings are fitted to all our diffs from April onwards. At present we are the only company offering the upsized bearing.
From models onwards the Haldex unit was also upgraded to the 4th generation, which if taken to a Land Rover dealer will accept updated software early models have the 3rd generation fitted which cannot be reflashed which Land Rover state will also reduce the load on the pinion.
An "All terrain mode disabled" message appearing on the dashboard signifies an issue with the Haldex unit. There are several reasons for this.
Land Rover do not state the Haldex unit and fluid as a serviceable item, but other manufactures who use the same units do. A drumming or whirring noise from the front footwell area of the car, that can then if left develop into a banging or graunching noise is a symptom of the front transfer box otherwise known as power transfer unit, PTU, front diff or IRD nose bearing failing.
If treated quickily enough the unit can be fully reconditioned with new bearings and seals throughout, but if left too long will fail catastrophically. The splines from the gearbox to this unit also wear, if the transferbox is failing it can also cause damage to this spline see below. If the car is suffering from front wheel drive only, there are several possible reasons Web View Mobile View.
Contact us today! We can diagnose most transmission issues over the phone! Our facility is located at :.Founded by Rover init became a brand in its own right in The company has been owned by several companies since the first car was manufactured; including Ford, British Leyland and BMW. In it was sold to Indian motor company Tata Motors and in the company was merged with another British icon, Jaguar, to form Jaguar Land Rover. Inat the Frankfurt Motor Show, Land Rover unveiled the completely re-imagined Defender, a model that was originally available between and However, the image they have earned as off-road machines has been damaged in recent years by reports regarding reliability.
But are they really as unreliable as the reports suggest? In this article we will be looking at Land Rover reliability, is it really as negative as it often appears?
It should be noted while the article is about Land Rover, this is a generalised term which will also include Range Rover vehicles.
In the not-so-distant past, Land Rovers were built like tanks and people boasted of their capability as off-road vehicles. They were used by farmers and businesses to tow trailers and transport muddy dogs, dirt-covered boots and heavy equipment.
Unfortunately, those days now appear to have passed, with consistent reports of issues with the reliability of available models. However, as time went on, this image was worn down by consistent reports of unreliability. Inthe same year that Land Rover and Jaguar merged to become one entity, a consumer report from What Car? Upon referring to information from J. D Power, reliability scores for Land Rover vehicles between and were less than encouraging.
For eight years out of the total 10, the company scored less than average, managing to only reach a maximum of 2. In a second study conducted inThe American data analytics company J. Power researched the average number of problems per vehicles from multiple manufacturers. The average number of problems was per vehicles. The results for Land Rover were, unfortunately, much higher than expected, with the brand seeing problems per cars, just under 2 issues per vehicle.
When it comes to reliability, it appears that not much has actually changed for Land Rover. Land Rover earned a score ofwhich means it placed 36 in a list of 40 brands. Though Maserati is in clear last place with a scorethis is not an impressive score for a popular manufacturer. The cost of repairs means that Land Rover comes in the bottom 10 when it comes to charges, in 31st place.
Though overall reliability of models produced by Land Rover including their Range Rover vehicles is not seen to be the best when reviewed for consumer and warranty reports, when looking at individual components of the vehicles such as engine or braking systemthey rate much better in the ReliabilityIndex report.
The electrics and fuel system earned an average score, placing 23 and 21 place respectively. Steering and transmission both appear in the bottom 10 for reliability, however, reports from owners for all manufacturers were rather low when it comes to these two areas, and though steering placed 32 out of 40, only 6. The transmission system list proves similar. Though Land Rover transmission systems placed 33 out of 40 manufacturers, only 5.
A total of The figures from consumer magazine Which? In their reliability survey, Land Rover landed at the bottom of the pile of manufacturers they reviewed. Both brand new years and older Land Rover models years earned a low reliability rating, having been awarded just 1-star out of 5. This is a disappointing score and one that many fans of the manufacturer will struggle with. Half of Land Rover owners whose vehicles are less than three years old that participated in the Which?
This is a very high fault rate, in fact, the highest among all manufacturers included in the final report for Owners of newer Land Rover and Range Rover vehicles that found they needed to have repairs done, spent over five days without their car, which is three days more than the average.
The most common issues in older Land Rovers included problems with the remote key fob, keyless entry system and central locking.To remove the pump, you have to drain the haldex fluid from the haldex coupling fluid part number ga2remove the pump, do whatever you do with the pump, then refill until the fluid spills back out the fill hole keeping the car level at all times.
I then replaced the drain plug, and proceeded to refill the diff using a small hand pump - see link below - until the fluid started to spill out the fill hole. This is a great post, have you had any repeat faults since doing the above?
This morning i got the same error with huge front wheelspin!! Hmm, I recently had the same error, but as the car is still under warranty it went back to the dealers who chose option b.
They had done the haldex clutch oil change at the service last year, but I wonder if cleaning the filter is included. Thanks for your reply, i am going to do this when the weather warms up a bit, i bet the filter is mucky on mine. Seems to be a common fault on Haldex units earlier ones at least. My Freelander 2 had the same fault at around 78k miles but ended up needing a new pump.
You mentioned that the car needs to be level when filling the fluid.
Freelander II Diff or Haldex - HELP!
Would it not work with the back of the card on ramps? Does it really "need" to be level? I would assume by having the back raised you would get a bit more fluid rather than too little, which I would not imagine would harm it since it is not a pressurized system. I have a large floor jack for my truck, but it was my understanding that you should not use such a jack on modern passenger cars as they are designed to be lifted at a special notch in the sill near the wheels and without that notch it will crush the sill.
I also have a set of jack stands, but since there is no "frame" in the traditional sense on a Superb, I am not sure where I would put them. Vehicles needs to be level so that correct amount of fluid is in there not too much not too little. Look at this post about oil change and you can see where he puts axle stands even though I would not use a puck in there as it could cause slipage.
A couple of cheep hockey pucks from ebay with a slot cut in them works for jacking up the sill without any damage or these. Have noted people saying they have the haldex oil changed etc in accordance with manufactures recommendations but still some suffer or have the failures.
Why are they not taking out the pump and cleaning the filter mesh as part of the procedure? When you replace engine oil you replace the filter, so why not clean the Haldex mesh if it is prone to sludge. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment.
In the following overview, you will find the most common problems for the Range Rover Evoque, for which Land Rover has announced a recall through the EU Rapex system. If the problem is corrected in time, it may not affect the overall reliability of your Range Rover Evoque.
The good news is that automakers usually provide unlimited time to correct such defects for free. Check to see if all of the potential problems with your Range Rover Evoque have been resolved in the past. How to do it, we give advice on a special page. Range Rover Evoque — Common problems. Common problems for the Range Rover Evoque Some problems will only occur after many years of operation, others are related to technical solutions and forced the manufacturer to issue a recall.
Ok Read more. Deutsche version. Under the terms of Annex II. The Commission does not take any responsibility for the accuracy of the information provided.Updated: Jan 5, Freelander 2 and Range Rover Evoque front differential problems. If there is a drumming or humming sound coming from the rear of your Freelander 2 or Range Rover Evoque, the chances are the rear diff bearings are failing. This is very common on the models and can occur even in very low mileage vehicles but normally over 70k.
This is why they become very problematic and starting failing. From models on wards the Haldex unit was also upgraded to the 4th generation, which if taken to a Land Rover dealer will accept updated software early models have the 3rd generation fitted which cannot be re-flashed which Land Rover state will also reduce the load on the pinion.
We highly recommend changing the Haldex unit when replacing the old rear differential. When you put a new component on to an old Haldex unit it can cause big problems and fail again. A drumming or whirring noise from the front foot-well area of the car, that can then if left develop into a banging or winning noise is a symptom of the PTU known as power transfer unitfront diff or IRD nose bearing failing.
If treated quickly enough the unit can be fully reconditioned with new bearings and seals throughout, but if left too long will fail catastrophically. The splines from the gearbox to this unit also wear, if the transfer box is failing it can also cause damage to this spline.Log in or Sign up.
I've scanned my car and no codes come up on the haldex ecu, so it must be mechanical, anyone have any good places to start? By no faults do you mean no communication? VCDS is the only tool worth using in this case If its not working there will be a fault code of some description or at the very least a no communication error Typical things to check are the earth strap as I have seen more and more of these corroding including my own recentlyplug at the back of the diff as the pins corrode Bill has posted a thread about thisrear end feels like its dragging when manouvering at low speed You can do a haldex pump test by going to module 22 AWD and checking fault codes I believe this cycles the haldex pump and you should hear in run briefly S3ZekJan 12, Not cheep from Audi tho smackers So got a second hand one.
I'm using vcds shareware, its communicating with the haldex and says theres no fault codes. I'll try those blocks in the morning, I can't do an output test with shareware unfortunately! The car has been on rollers recently but had the fuse pulled. Theres no locking from the rear just a lot of spinning from the front and torque steer My mates pre one never had one eather but it has the bolt on the under side just above the rear diff on pas side so made one for it anyway.
Damn it tufty! Ok, I didn't check the stickies. Good idea making a strap Pats3poa has said I can try his spare controller to see if that fixes it but it seems like a hell of a performance just to see if something works or not, gotta be an easier way0.
Best way of diagnosing haldex fault?
Tufty, I feel better now, I had read that already! I did as advised and checked AWD module on vcds again and this time I had two codes, first one is which is brake light related, don't know why as everything is working back there! Second code is a challenge though, code It doesn't appear on ross tech wiki. Had a bit of a google and the common consensus is that it relates to pre-charge pump?
Does anyone have any more info to add to this? I'm not keen to order a pre-charge pump at great expense and find its not that Any info greatly appreciated. I have the same issue, only front drive. I got the break pedal switch fault also, the switch is linked to a few things, not just break lights.